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A Menu from the early 19th century

August 11, 2012 by 19thcentury

A long while ago I wrote a series on Victorian cooking (here, here, here, and here). Many people asked about specific Victorian recipes or dishes, either for a Victorian dinner-party or to bring a fun snack to school for presentations and such.
In the nineteenth century, cooking wasn’t really a hobby, it was either a necessity or just something you hired a cook for. Furthermore, there were no real recipe books, though at the end of the century some books with suggestions came into fashion, mostly in America. It wasn’t very commom for novels to explain what food was eaten, and food wasn’t really a topic of discussion as it is now. Therefore, it’s pretty hard to find actual recipes or dishes from the nineteenth century. I finally found a very good resource in the Annotated Emma by David M. Shapard ( who got them from E. Raffald, The Experienced English Housekeeper). I will repost them here.

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This dish consists of: Transparent soup (some sort of broth?), Fricas’d chicken, Harrico (green beans), Pigeons Comport, Codsounds like little Turkies, Lambs Ears Forc’d, Fricando Veal, Pork Griskins, French Pye, Brocoli &c., Kidney Beans, Small Ham, Mock Turtle, Boil’d Turkey, Sallad, Bottl’d Peas, Sweet Breads Ala Royal, House Lamb, Sheep Rumps & Kidneys in Rice, Ox Pallets, Larded Oysters, Ducks Alamode, Beef Olives, Florendine of Rabbits, Hare Soup.

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This second course consists of: Pheasant, Moonshine, Crawfish in Savoryjelly (sic), Snow balls, Globes of Gold Web with Mottoes in Them, Marbl’d Veal, Mince Pies, Pickled Smelts, Fish Pond, Pompadore Cream, Stew’d Cardoons, Pea Chick with Asparagus, Transparent pudding cover’d with a Silver Web, Roast Woodcocks, Stew’d Mushroomd, Macaroni, Floating Island, Potted Lampreys, Crocrant with Hot Peppers, Collar’d Pig, Pistacha Cream (pistachio something?), Burnt Cream (maybe a creme brulée?), Snipes in Savory Jelly, Rocky Island, Roasted Hare.
Wel… are you hungry? They definitely knew how to eat, then! Some of these dishes are fairly straightforward but some of them are very puzzling. If you know what they mean or feel like googling for them, please let us know what you found in the comments! I’m especially curious about “Globes of Gold Web with Mottoes in Them”.

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  1. on August 12, 2012 at 4:08 am | Reply Anastasia

    I always wondered what blanc mange was (custard) and why they insisted sick people eat it. Probably read Little Women a few too many times. Hhehe


    • on November 12, 2017 at 7:41 pm | Reply Rosemary cook

      Bancmange. Disgusting, we used to have it for pudding ay school. A geitine set flavoured milk pudding turned out from a mould. Yukrosemaryr


      • on November 12, 2017 at 8:36 pm Rhoda Miller

        School food tends to be disgusting


  2. on August 13, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Reply

    Maybe the Globes of Gold Web are something like this?


    • on August 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Reply 19thcentury

      Ludivine: that does look really amazing! Who knows, it might be. But the mottoes in them…?

      Anastasia: it is ompossible to read Little Women too many times ;)


  3. on August 25, 2012 at 11:48 am | Reply briandayhistorian

    An interesting article. I am a volunteer Room Steward for English Heritage at Brodsworth Hall and Gardens, South Yorkshire, England, and the Thellusson family was absolutely fascinated by desserts as seen by the collection of moulds, which helped to make dinners more exciting and served as a talking-point when they had guests to dinner.


  4. on September 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Reply shellyjlmillert

    Reblogged this on Shelly Miller Diary.


  5. on December 5, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Reply James E. Frutchey

    First Course

    Transparent soup—presumably a clear soup, broth or consommé.
    Harrico—presumably haricots verts, i.e. green beans.
    Pigeons comport—could refer to pigeon in port wine sauce.
    Codsounds—Cod’s sounds, the air sac or swim bladder of the fish; can be prepared in many ways.
    Fricado Veal—veal stewed with mushrooms and flavored with almond, garlic and saffron.
    Pork Griskins—sliced pork loin.
    French Pie—this could be anything, perhaps a tourtiere.
    Sweetbreads a la royale—In case you don’t know, “sweetbreads” is the generic term for various glands left over after butchering the animal, such as the thymus, pancreas, parotid gland, sublingual gland, etc. In other words, awful offal. “A la royal” means to stew with a LOT of shallots and garlic.
    Florentine of Rabbit—Take a whole (head and ears intact) skinned and boned rabbit, stuff the body cavity with a forcemeat made of bread, rabbit liver, bacon, anchovy, wine and herbs, then stew it. When done, cover the rabbit with a veal stock white sauce, thickened, flavored with anchovy, lemon, eggs, cream and nutmeg.

    Second Course

    Snowballs—probably the same as today; sugar coated nut and butter cookies.
    Fish pond—unclear; perhaps some form of tidbits in aspic.
    Marble veal—prepare pureed seasoned veal and pureed mix of tongue and lard; pack into a mold in alternating layers, douse with clarified butter, press until compacted, then unmold and slice.
    Stewed cardoons—cardoon is a thistle, closely related to the artichoke.
    Pompadore cream—crème pompadour; flavored whipped cream colored with three or more contrasting colors, then layered color by color in a bowl.
    Transparent pudding, etc.—basically, a custard pie.
    Pea chick with asparagus—I doubt if this means chickpeas. A pea chick is a young pea fowl and pea fowl were considered a delicacy as early as the 16th. Century.
    Pistacha cream—pistachio cream?
    Floating island—meringues floating in crème anglaise , or vanilla custard.
    Burnt cream—could be crème brulee.


    • on December 6, 2012 at 8:52 am | Reply 19thcentury

      James E. Frutchey, thank you for your input! That’s very interesting, where did you find all this info? Some things on this list seem more appetizing than others…


    • on May 14, 2017 at 1:17 pm | Reply Krystal

      I’m not easily imeserspd. . . but that’s impressing me! :)


  6. on December 19, 2012 at 3:24 am | Reply Margaret Cook

    Hiya by the middle of the century there were very good cook and household management books available . The “Martha Stewart of the time was Mrs Beeton. I have an original coIpy of her book. It is filled with recipes for everything you can imagine.
    Margaret Cook
    http://www.victorianyear1865.blogspot.com


    • on December 19, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Reply 750000852drake

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  7. on August 16, 2013 at 12:28 am | Reply Rhoda Miller

    They didn’t each eat all of this. A number of dishes were put out to be chosen from. Our system of sequential courses, say soup, fish, meat, dessert dates from the later 19th century


  8. on May 19, 2015 at 6:36 am | Reply andrewfez

    I have a link on my blog that gives a long list of cookbooks for each 20 years of English history (for example 1800-1819 cookbooks) [see link below]. Some of those cookbooks weren’t just food prep recipes, but recipes for making cleaning supplies, boot black, black for stoves, illness remedies, and some even quote Sir Humphrey Davy’s Elements of Agricultural Chemistry of 1815 or so, in an attempt to help those tending large kitchen gardens improve their soils with mineral manures. I’ve also listed a few of the cookbooks on my blog as well!

    http://www.woodbridgeandhedgely.com/?p=128


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  9. on July 22, 2016 at 4:23 am | Reply heritagefruits

    The recipe for gold web and silver web is explained in detail in “The Experienced English Housekeeper”, which is available on the Internet Archive. Pages 185-188. :)


  10. on July 22, 2016 at 4:27 am | Reply heritagefruits

    A TRANSPARENT PUDDING.
    BEAT eight eggs very well, and put them in
    a pan with half a pound of butter, and the same
    weight of loaf sugar beat fine, a little grated nutmeg, set it on the fire and keep stirring it till it
    thickens like buttered eggs, then put it in a basin
    to cool, roll a rich puff paste very thin, lay it
    round the edge of a China dish, then pour in the
    pudding, and bake it in a moderate oven half an
    hour, it will cut light and clear.-It is a pretty
    pudding for a corner for dinner and a middle
    for supper.


    • on July 22, 2016 at 3:26 pm | Reply Rhoda Miller

      Butter, sugar…..what’s not to like?


  11. on September 24, 2016 at 1:24 pm | Reply Gary W. Abbott

    The recipe said to separate three eggs, so I put one in the kitchen, one in the dining room and one in the parlor. Now what do I do?


    • on September 24, 2016 at 10:47 pm | Reply Rhoda Miller

      Call for pizza delivery


    • on February 21, 2017 at 5:48 pm | Reply cooking kid

      yolk from white


  12. on September 28, 2016 at 12:29 am | Reply Rhoda Miller

    There were cookbooks in 19th century Britain, Mrs. Beeton, for one.


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  14. on January 6, 2017 at 8:50 am | Reply John Jennings

    Hi Geerte, I came across your blog when I was doing some research on 21 course royal menus ( I have a project nearly finished for a new set of cooking dictionaries in 9 languages with 26 sections ( just to boast a bit the cooking terms section has nearly 13,000 entries and Kitchen utensils more than 5000 (every dish, knife fork, glass cup, pot, pan etc) LOL, 8 years of work so far. Anyway back to your menus (by the way you need to change your heading to menu or meal (not course). I list below some suggestions for your uncertainties (creme brulée etc). I also include another menu for interest. A meal is a series of courses of food that are served in a pre-determined order. In the past it was possible to have up to 25 courses (some Thai restaurants still have up to 15 courses on the menu).
    Normally there are four main meals in a day, breakfast, lunch (dinner), tea (Dinner), Supper. The meals served depend on a countries local customs. Other supplementary meals may be served in between the main meals ( elevenses, snacks etc.).
    COMMENT: The normal menu for a three course meal (lunch or dinner) will consist of an hors d’oeuvre, starter or soup, followed by a main course of fish, meat or a vegetarian dish, then a dessert or cheese. More elaborate menus will have a fish or pasta course as well as a meat course, and a dessert as well as cheese. Note that in english menus, the dessert course comes before the cheese, while in French menus, the cheese comes before the dessert. Meals contain: First courses Appetiser, Soup, (Fish) or Salad, Main (course) dish: Meat, poultry or fish with vegetable accompaniments, Dessert dishes: Fruits, fruit salads, Sweets (puddings etc.), entremets (mousses etc.) and finally a course containing cheeses. List of courses: 1. Hors D’oeuvre; Examples of such hors d’oeuvres: Melon: Melon Frappe, Oysters: Huitres Nature,
    Smoked Salmon: Saumon Fumee, Canapés à l’Amiral, Oysters à la Russe, Caviar: CAVIAR, Grapefruit: Pamplemousse, Shrimp, Prawn or Lobster Cocktail, Fruit Cocktail Coupe Florida
    2. Potage
    Bisque d’Homard” or “Bouillabaisse.” Cream of Barley Soup, Consommé julienne, Consommé celestine
    3. Oeufs
    omelette Espagnole, Oeuf en Cocotte a la crime, Oeuf poche florentine.
    4. Farineux
    Some examples include Spaghetti Bolognaise, Lasagne Napolitaine and Macaroni au gratin.
    5.Poisson
    Sole, Salmon, Halibut, Escallops, Poached Salmon with Mousseline Sauce, etc. Rarely seen on a menu for the evening meal are: Cod, Bass, Haddock, Brill, Hake, and Plaice.
    6. Entrée
    The following items, with their appropriate garnishes and sauces, can be successfully served as entrées.
    Brains (Cervelles), Liver (Foie), Oxtail (Queue de Boeuf), Kidneys (Rognons), Calves Head (Tete de Veau), Trips (Tripes), Rump, Entrecote and Tournedo Beefsteaks, Lamb Chops and cutlets – Noisettes and Filet Mignons, Pork Chops and cutlets, Filets Mignon Lili, Chicken Lyonnaise, Vegetable Marrow Farci
    7. Sorbet
    Sorbet Italian and Sorbet crème de menth
    8. Relevé (removes, main meat course)
    Lamb (Agneau) Chicken (Poulet), Beef (Boeuf) Duckling (Caneton), Veal (Veau) Fowl (Poulard), Ham (Jambon) Tongue (Langue), Pork (Porc), Lamb with Mint Sauce, Calvados Glazed Roast Duckling with Applesauce, Roast Sirloin of Beef Forestière, Château Potatoes, Minted Green Pea Timbales, Creamed Carrots, Boiled Rice, Parmentier and Boiled New Potatoes
    9. Roti – Roast
    Roast chicken, Braised duck and Roast quail, Roasted Squab on Wilted Cress
    10. Legumes
    Cauliflower Mornay, Baked potato and Grilled tomatoes.
    11. Salade
    Salade Vert(green salad),Lettuce salad, Asparagus Salad with Champagne-Saffron Vinaigrette
    12. Buffet Froids (cold buffet)
    Fromage: Canetoni Roti,Pulet Roti, Pâté de Foie Gras
    13. Entremets (sweets)
    Apple pie, Chocolate souffle and Cassata ice-cream.
    14. Savoureux
    Welsh rarebit, Scotch woodcock, Canape diane
    15. Fromage
    Cheese is usually served with butter, crackers, grapes, apple and occasionally celery. Gouda, Camembert and Cheddar are some examples of cheese.
    16. Dessert/Desservir
    Common desserts include cakes, cookies, fruits, pastries and candies. Peaches in Chartreuse Jelly, Chocolate Painted Eclairs with French Vanilla Cream
    17.Beverage/Café
    All types of hot or cold beverage,Tea,Coffee etc. are served.
    This menu consists of: 1. Transparent soup (some sort of consommé), 2. Fricaseed chicken (chicken Fricasée), 3. Harricots (green beans), 4. Pigeon en Compot, 5. Cod sounds broiled with gravy, 6. Stuffed Lambs Ears, 7. veal fricandeau, 8. Pork Griskins, 9. French Pye, 10. Brocoli &cream, 11. Kidney Beans, 12. Small Ham, 13. Mock Turtle soup, 14. Boiled Turkey, 15, Sallad, 16. Bottled Peas, 17. Sweet Breads à la Royal, 18. House Lamb, 19. Sheep Rumps & Kidneys in Rice, 20. Ox Palets, 21. Larded Oysters, 22. Ducks à la mode, 23. Beef Olives, 24. Florentine of Rabbit,25. Hare Soup.

    This second menu consists of: 1. Pheasant, 2. Moonshine, 3. Crawfish in Savory jelly (sic), 4. Snow balls, 5. Globes of Gold Web with Mottoes in Them, 6. Marbled Veal, 7. Mince Pies, 8. Pickled Smelts, 9. Fish Pond, 10. Pompadore Cream, 11.Stewed Cardoons, 12. Pea chick with Asparagus, 13. Transparent pudding covered with a Silver Web, 14. Roast Woodcocks, 15. Stewed Mushrooms, 16. Macaroni, 17. Floating Island, 18. Potted Lampreys, 19. Crocant with Hot Peppers, 20. Collared Pig, 21. Pistacho Cream, 22. Burnt Cream (creme brulée?), 23. Snipes in Savoury Jelly, 24. Rocky Island, 25. Roasted Hare.

    Pork Griskins are a pork chop with the skin and bone removed allowing the butcher to cut thinner steaks (ideal for the smaller appetite), whereas the pork chop can only be cut between the bone.

    House lamb is lamb prepared in the way of the chef of a large country house etc.
    Sheeps rumps (chump) are a large piece of roasted boneless lamb (roasted in an ovenproof dish) served with lambs kidneys and shallot purée.
    Ox Palate is the roof of a cow’s mouth. … Larousse cites a 1769 French recipe for “Allumettes de Palais de Boeuf”, thin strips of palate which are battered then fried. To fricando Ox Palates (The experienced english housekeeper By Elizabeth Raffald).
    Beef olives: Nothing to do with the olives that grow on trees these form the base of a braised meat dish popular in Scotland since the 1600’s. They are thin beef steaks, wrapped around a filling of stuffing or sausage meat.

    Pistachio
    pistachio butter is ground pistachios and maybe some salt.
    pistachio paste is ground pistachios, sugar, and sometimes a little food coloring or flavoring.
    pistachio cream is ground pistachios, sugar and cream.

    Crème brûlée also known as burnt cream, crema catalana, or Trinity cream is a dessert consisting of a rich custard base topped with a contrasting layer of hard caramel.


    • on November 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm | Reply Carol Kennedy

      Nice work.


  15. on February 21, 2017 at 5:48 pm | Reply cooking kid

    gary it means seperate the yolk from the white im thirteen and even i know that come on man


  16. on November 10, 2017 at 4:31 am | Reply Peter

    Google for Mrs Beeton’s ‘The Book of Household Management’ There are three volumes covering not only recipes but selection meat cuts etc., the roles of various household staff and even methods of handling simple ailments. A treasure trove from the 1860s


  17. on November 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm | Reply Carol Kennedy

    Also Francatelli’s Cookery Book (c1860s) another: Modern Cookery, For Private Families, by Eliza Acton, 1860 … Thanks to all who send old recipes, I love reading them. Putting some in my Victorian cookbook which is due out sometime early 2018. Again, thank you.


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  19. on December 31, 2018 at 5:36 pm | Reply Renee

    cardoons are a vegetable, they look quite similar to artichokes. Glad the other person posted the “golden globe”, which probably looked just like that — hollow ball of spun sugar syrup which would look golden when heated and caramelized a bit. The motto sounds like today’s fortune cookie — inside the golden sugar ball, they would put a folded piece of paper with some “words to live by” written on it. They should revive this dessert, it sounds lovely and fun. More enjoyable than fortune cookies anyway.



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